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I need your fandom help, please!
You’ve probably noticed that I haven’t been around as much as I used to. This is because RL has taken new turns, and has occupied a lot of my time. As a result, I find I just don’t have as much time to spend on all of my projects and places as I would like. I’ve been doing site stuff now for over twelve years and I have no intention of disappearing completely. But, I do need to cut back on my fandom presence, at least for the time being. This is where you come in, because I want to use my time in the best way, so it will help if you tell me what you want. I will make my decisions on what to close or cut back on based on your feedback, my own enjoyment of the project, and my site statistics.
Please tell me what you would like me to focus on. You can respond here, or privately, whichever you prefer.
Currently open and still being updated, I have six sites, a forum, and three lj communities:Scribes of AngelMidnight RosesWhite CarouselIWRY ArchiveApocalypse Alley Christmas Warriors Blood Roses Forumwriters_toyboxprojectparaangel_hoard
I also write Angel and B/A fiction. If this is on your save list, please let me know – and if there is anything in particular you enjoy reading, it wouldn’t hurt to mention that, either.
Comments are not screened, and thoughts are welcome from anyone who has ever used my sites – not just my friends-list.
Thank you very much for your help.
ITA - I have become so busy with RL work and RL health issues, I just don't have the time to do half of what I used to do - including the reading and reccing of fanfic, which I used to love to do.
Hope everything works out for you in a very positive way. ::hugs::
Meanwhile - here are the two sites of yours that I most particularly enjoy:
scribes of Angel
Everyone seems to have other considerations these days. Nice to see you here again though!
Things are actually okay at the moment – just really time consuming! But thank you for your concern.
Your vote for the two sites has been noted. Thank you.
I agree; Scribes of Angel and the IWRY archive are the biggest feathers in your cap.
Scribes is the oldest, so its not surprising its perhaps the most impressive. Maybe I need a bigger cap!
Thank you for your vote – much appreciated.
Happiness will die without Blood Roses. For archive purposes, Scribes and IWRY are a big deal, and personally I still hope to get a little more activity out of projectpara
It’s your efforts on the forum that are keeping it open, you know. Feel free to play on the Project community as long as you like – it’s my own efforts I’m having to cut back on, not yours!
Thanks for the vote.
Do we have to make a choice? I love them all...
and I do understand that RL does get in the way, it has for me too.
Um...I'd say Scribes, IWRY, PP would be a must to stay. And everything else, but those three are a must for me.
I know. I love them all too, which is why I’m trying to make my decision easier by asking others what they enjoy. I want to be able to provide the best service I can, and unfortunately I think that means I will need to cut out the things that nobody wants.
Scribes and IWRY seem to be the popular ones, don’t they? PP is not an issue as it is a complete work on its own, and no longer needs updating. Some sites might just wait until I have more time, while for others it might be better to close them altogether. Interesting that nobody so far has asked that I carry on writing…
I see what you mean about PP. I think as long as the site is accessible to readers then it won't need you to update. And the same goes for the IWRY archive as well.
I don't visit Blood Roses like I used to, and I do go to the others, esp. when I get a note about a new story being added. But then, some of the archives do contain the same material? Would it help you if you didn't double up?
I forgot to say that yes please, do keep writing. There is a dearth of good B/A fanfic out there, and I for one, would love to read anything you write.
it won't need you to update. And the same goes for the IWRY archive as well.
I think you might say otherwise in November!
Like you, I don’t use the forum as much as I used to. I do still visit every day, but much of the posting these days concerns the comics and I have no idea what everyone is talking about!
I think doubling up might be the way I have to go. The problem is, each one has criteria that the others don’t so complete doubling isn’t going to be possible. The sites I host on my domain are not going away. They will still be available for reading, just not updated – much like PP or the original Blood Roses site.
I was teasing about the writing, sweetie! I know you like reading my stories – and even if nobody wanted me to carry on I’d still do it for me. I was just curious, that’s all.
Hmm, if I have to narrow them down I would pick Scribes of Angel, IWRY and Blood Roses, most definitely - and PP should never disappear!
From the lack of participation lately, it seems most of us have RL issues taking center stage.
Such a pity...
PP is a finished product, so as long as my sites aren’t hacked – and it has happened – it will be safe.
There seems to be less participation in general from the fandom, and it is a shame.
Thank you for the vote!
I have been thinking about this for most of the day...
For me, the question is in two parts. There’s you as Mistress of the Pointy Polygon of sites, and then there’s you as a writer.
My first vote has to go to you as a writer. If you have time to write, then I would very much like to read. I enjoy your stories. And if you’re writing, you need somewhere to put your writing. So, that first vote has to include White Carousel, unless you are going to choose somewhere else to put your writing.
Then, let’s consider the Pointy Polygon. Your issue is time. Clearly, you have the choice of keeping everything live, but just not updating very often. I know that doesn’t sit well with you, though, so I’ll just do a bit of musing here.
Scribes of Angel – this is a major archive, and I guess the issue for you is whether you put the work into updating it regularly, which means finding new and suitable stories, which in turn means trawling through a lot of maybe not very suitable stories. I’d vote for Scribes to stay, but it may be that you can only keep it on an irregularly updated basis. That would certainly be better than leaving it to languish, so Scribes gets my second vote.
(How many votes do I get?)
Midnight Roses has, I think, one or two exclusive stories, but in large part duplicates stories already on Scribes? However, I know you have particular criteria for a story on Scribes – that it must be standalone, for one. Whether all the stories on Midnight would fit your criteria, I don’t know. If you want to reduce the number of your sites, Midnight Roses is one that maybe could be a sub-set of Scribes, rather than a separate site.
IWRY Archive... Well, this depends on whether IWRY is going to continue into the future. For maybe eleven months of the year, it really doesn’t generate any work, but for that other month, it consumes a lot of your time. Then there’s the actual running of the IWRY Marathon, which also uses a lot of time over a longer period. But, if IWRY is to continue, it needs the IWRY Archive. So, maybe the decision there needs to move back a step. Have you time to keep doing IWRY? If so, then the Archive must continue, and would get my third vote. If not, then the Archive can be left as just that, an archive.
Apocalypse Alley. This, too, I think pretty much duplicates stories already in Scribes, or the IWRY Archive, and the same comments apply here as to Midnight Roses.
Christmas Warriors. Like IWRY, this involves a period of intense activity, maybe at a time when there’s a lot of family stuff going on, because that’s always the way at Christmas. I like Christmas Warriors, but if you want to reduce on workload, this might make a real difference to you.
Blood Roses Forum. I really don’t visit this anymore, because it largely seems to consist now of discussions of the comics, which I don’t read. But, it is a meeting point for your readers, and a place where new readers can come and discuss things and find out about the rest of your sites. So, my fourth vote would go to the Forum, for others, if not for me...
Writers’ Toybox. I really haven’t had time to contribute to this for some time, but the Forum has a thread for posting stories. Could the activity here be incorporated into the Forum, if you decide to keep that?
Angel Hoard. Again, I haven’t had time to get into this, and again, I wonder whether it couldn’t be incorporated into the Forum.
Project Paranormal. Sadly, there won’t be any more stories here, so this is complete in terms of work and activity for you, although hopefully there will be some more input from others... i.e., I really do mean to go and catch up with all Kairos’ hard work.
So, I’ve exercised 4 votes, (5, if you count me wanting to read more of your stories!) and been a bit indecisive about most of the rest, which I’d actually hate to see disappear. But things change and move on, and you have a Real Life to live.
I don’t know whether that’s been any help at all?
Thank you for your lovely response, Jo. As always, your points were really well thought out, so I shall go through some of them.
Mostly, I enjoy writing and it pleases me to know others gain pleasure from reading them. I made some changes at Carousel last year so that it is easier to use. Instead of posting each story there, I am now linking to any that are posted on LJ or Scribes, for instance. Of course, direct posting at Carousel is still an option.
Scribes is my oldest surviving site and closing it would be a shame. You are right in that it takes a tremendous amount of time to find good stories to use – and that has got harder in recent years, now that many authors are no longer writing in the fandom or are not available to grant permission. I take on board your comment about irregular updating being better than no updating…
(How many votes do I get?)
As many as you need!
Midnight Rose’s main difference is that it accepts parts of a series, when Scribes will only take standalones. Interesting idea to make it a sub-set of Scribes – are you thinking of some kind of amalgamation? Midnight (and Apocalypse Alley) also differ in that they are B/A sites – Scribes is not. As a B/A-er myself, it does slant heavily in that direction, simply because that’s what I choose to read, but Scribes was never intended to be for any particular pairing.
Do I have time to continue running IWRY? Probably not. But I didn’t have time the first year either, and it didn’t stop us, did it? The problem with this one is that it relies so heavily on the goodwill of others to take part that it can be terribly stressful if those writers aren’t forthcoming. November is a really busy updating month, and the preparation for IWRY can be very time-consuming too. But as you pointed out, the rest of the year it isn’t a problem.
Christmas Warriors got overshadowed by IWRY. It was something I’d always intended to do, but then IWRY came along and having two big projects one after the other is too much sometimes. I simplified the criteria last year, and we shall have to see whether this one will make it through.
Writer’s Toybox was never really about posting stories, it was more… about being the impetus for the stories, and for writers to get together and post interesting links and ideas, and that hasn’t really happened.
Angel Hoard was provoked by lots of requests from writers for a place to post Angel stories, but again, that hasn’t happened. It needs a lot of work to get it take off and I don’t really have the time for that.
Kairos has done a lot to bring PP back in the public eye. I have no issues with keeping the community open for discussion for as long as anyone wants to use it.
Thank you for taking the time to make all those remarks – all of your votes and comments have been noted and I shall consider what is the best thing to do.
Like a lot of the other commenters, I especially love and use IWRY marathon and Scribes, but I am quite partial to writers_toybox
Best wishes on your RL stuff, and as always, I really appreciate all the effort you put into fandom. :)Edited at 2013-07-02 01:25 am (UTC)
Finally – a vote for Writer’s Toybox! I have noticed you posting there, and I wish to say thank you for your support of the site.
Thank you for your kind thoughts and your votes have been noted.
Have you considered archiving the sites you no longer have time for on AO3? I believe they have a whole department devoted to rescuing archives.
Interesting idea, but not one I could consider. Since most of my sites are multi-author, and I have asked permission for every single story in use, it wouldn’t be practical to re-negotiatate well over a 1000 stories. Some authors are *very* specific about how I use their work. Plus, if I had time to move everything… anyway, the sites I host aren’t going anywhere – I’m just trying to decide which ones to continue updating.
Ah, yeah, permissions get complicated in a situation like that. :/
I think I echo the common themes of Scribes and IRWY. I know the latter is a lot of work for you, but I love the month of November and getting new B/A fic to read, since the volume has dropped off so much in recent times. PP is complete and I hope that it never gets hacked because each time I go back to it, I get sucked in (although the last few episodes of the series lead to an end that I wasn't entirely sure about). The others, I don't really visit much, to be honest, so I can't really advocate for them. Thanks for all you do! And yes, if you write anything new, count me in for reading!
It seems that everyone is leaning in more or less the same decoration on this thread. I too hope that the sites are never hacked again – they took out the whole lot once, and it took Mike and myself three months to get them back again. If you have thoughts on PP, mosey on over to its community and feel free to discuss your thoughts there. We’d love to hear them!
The others, I don't really visit much, to be honest, so I can't really advocate for them.
That, actually, already tells me a lot!
Thank you for taking the time to comment, and for the writing vote… :o)
First of all, you are wonderful! You have given us so many great stories and so many wonderful sites for Angel and B/A. You should be very proud of your accomplishments. I know that it takes a lot of work to keep the sites going, and I also know (and believe me, I understand and sympathize) that RL is kicking your butt big time. You do whatever is best for you.
I love IWRY, but I know how much work it is. I hope that it will survive, and I will try to help this year. Scribes is a wonderful archive, and I would like to see it online for many years. I think Jo's idea of making Midnight Roses (and Apocalypse Alley) a subset of Scribes is a really good idea if it's doable. I know there are different requirements, but it would make it easier for you, I think. I do enjoy writers_toybox, even thought I don't write.
Again, I want you to do what is best for you.
Why, thank you!
You know I love doing the sites, and how much I enjoy pleasing people with them. I hate having to take a step back, but I think that if I don’t, then everything will suffer and that doesn’t sound like a healthy arrangement!
I hope to be around for a long time yet, and if the fans are still there, I want to be there to please them. Unfortunately, the fan base is waning, and it is hard to tell whether it’s a general fandom thing, or if its my places that no longer hold interest. I’m aware that nothing holds still forever, but the trick is knowing how and when to change, I guess.
Actually, I owe you an email – I have a couple of things I want to tell you about. (Nothing bad!)
Thank you for your lovely comments, and taking the time to vote.